The FAA, AOPA, Sporty's etc. have good "point and click" HTML (web
browser) interfaces to US Terminal procedures but don't seem to allow
FTP access.

Does anyone allow FTP access to the TPP's?

This would make it a bit easier to write a shell script that could
download and print TPP's for a list of airports.

Doug Carter > wrote:
>The FAA, AOPA, Sporty's etc. have good "point and click" HTML (web
>browser) interfaces to US Terminal procedures but don't seem to allow
>FTP access.

Look for one of several utilities floating around called either htget
or wget. If you know the url, you just say "htget url > file" and
it's like anonymous ftp. Of course, you need to know the URL, but
with FTP you'd need to know the pathname anyway.

Doug Carter wrote:
> The FAA, AOPA, Sporty's etc. have good "point and click" HTML (web
> browser) interfaces to US Terminal procedures but don't seem to allow
> FTP access.
>
> Does anyone allow FTP access to the TPP's?
>
> This would make it a bit easier to write a shell script that could
> download and print TPP's for a list of airports.

Somone posted this URL just a week or two ago for a terminal procedure printing
tool:

http://arion.doit.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/tpp.pl

The userid / password is guest / guest.

On 3/7/05 12:54 PM, Doug Carter wrote the following:
> The FAA, AOPA, Sporty's etc. have good "point and click" HTML (web
> browser) interfaces to US Terminal procedures but don't seem to allow
> FTP access.
>
> Does anyone allow FTP access to the TPP's?
>
> This would make it a bit easier to write a shell script that could
> download and print TPP's for a list of airports.

My lazy way to do get the FAA plates, with plenty of software bells and
whistles, was to buy SmartPlates. www.seattleavionics.com

Once nice bell/whistle, which I have not seen elsewhere, is that the places can
be printed two-up on 8 1/2 x 11 paper. So you just fold the sheet in half,
punch it, and you are on your way. No trimming or other fooling around.

I'd really love to find a way to download an entire state...many of the
packages are never the way I need them.

Doug Carter wrote:

> Does anyone allow FTP access to the TPP's?
>
> This would make it a bit easier to write a shell script that could
> download and print TPP's for a list of airports.

All of the suggestions so far are good, but (always a "but") I really
just want "plain old" FTP access like I have to the NWS weather files.

I made a simple shell command that takes the zip file of terps that I
batch download from the AOPA web site (for free) and prints them on
pre-punched paper. This part is trivial but, being really lazy I want
to expand the command so it will take a simple list of airports and
download those files (and then print them) so I don't have to go through
the mouse clicking exercise.

On 7 Mar 2005 16:09:47 -0800, "Randy" > wrote:

>I'd really love to find a way to download an entire state...many of the
>packages are never the way I need them.

With SmartPlates, you can set up an entire state as a "Pack".


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Sure...but us cheap types are always looking for something for free :-)

On 8 Mar 2005 06:05:34 -0800, "Randy" > wrote:

>Sure...but us cheap types are always looking for something for free :-)

Well, it's not free. But when I purchased it, the cost was $100 with no
updates required. So, assuming I will fly for another twenty years, that
works out to less than $0.02 per day.

Just my 2¢ :-)


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Randy wrote:
> Sure...but us cheap types are always looking for something for free :-)


Amen! The machine I use to do automatically gather weather, do flight
planning, manage the pool, the security cameras, etc. cost $50 on eBay,
the OS and all the applications are Open Source (free); bonus is no
restarts and no virus problems.

I've no objection to Windows and paid for applications; these are fine
for many situations. It's just that I want to keep the software budget
for my air force at $0 (at least not counting the Jeppesen subscription
for the IFR GPS...).


Free is really cheap and highly cost effective :)

In article >, Mitty wrote:
> On 3/7/05 12:54 PM, Doug Carter wrote the following:
>> The FAA, AOPA, Sporty's etc. have good "point and click" HTML (web
>> browser) interfaces to US Terminal procedures but don't seem to allow
>> FTP access.
>>
>> Does anyone allow FTP access to the TPP's?


'scuse my jumping late into this thread, but I in a case of serendipity
just came across wget. It seems to be exactly what you need. From the
man page:
GNU Wget is a free utility for non-interactive download of
files from the Web. It supports HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP pro-
tocols, as well as retrieval through HTTP proxies.

HTH,

Morris

Journeyman wrote:
> In article >, Mitty wrote:
>
>>On 3/7/05 12:54 PM, Doug Carter wrote the following:
>>
>>>The FAA, AOPA, Sporty's etc. have good "point and click" HTML (web
>>>browser) interfaces to US Terminal procedures but don't seem to allow
>>>FTP access.
>>>
>>>Does anyone allow FTP access to the TPP's?
>
> 'scuse my jumping late into this thread, but I in a case of serendipity
> just came across wget. It seems to be exactly what you need. From the
> man page:
> GNU Wget is a free utility for non-interactive download of
> files from the Web. It supports HTTP, HTTPS, and FTP pro-
> tocols, as well as retrieval through HTTP proxies.
>
> HTH,
>
> Morris

Thanks Morris. The problem is not the tool, I happen to use curl
(similar to wget). The problem is that the FAA, AOPA and Airnav (the
ones I have tried) all seem to go out their way to prevent you from
having access to a valid URL to download with wget or curl.